Smoldering amount from Noreg as Superior Diplomatist Jens Stoltenberg says the Nordic activity to Breivik's violence present be statesman "author openness and writer doctrine".
The horrific and brutal attacks were a national tragedy and attack on our values of openness and democracy. The final death toll is not yet known, but the magnitude is hard to comprehend. The priority this week is to care for the wounded and those who have lost loved ones.
My proudest moment was when the Norwegian people went out on the streets and so clearly manifested their message of tolerance and democracy in the face of violence on Monday night. But that was not my proudest moment, that was pride in the people of Norway.
...it is quite clear, at least to me, and Professor Andrew Silke on yesterday's Today programme, that Anders Breivik is not a madman. If you study Breivik's 2083 A European Declaration of Independence, it becomes apparent that Breivik is not insane. His thought processes are clear and rational. He appears to reasonably well socialised, and in control of his faculties. He even displays a sense of morality. His political arguments, although deeply wrong, are no more wrong-headed than many you might find in the comments boxes on the websites of many a newspaper, and, if anything, are far more sophisticated. Breivik comes across as an intelligent, thoughtful person, albeit obsessional with what he perceives to be the eliminationist threat of multiculturalism to Norwegian - and European - society. None of these attributes make him insane, and certainly not mad enough to be the psycho figure posited by Sam Leith and Boris Johnson.As the holy month of Ramadhan will begin this weekend, we have urged all mosques in the United Kingdom to increase security and ensure that they are more vigilant about suspicious packages that may be left near mosques. People travelling to mosques should be aware of being followed or any verbal attacks - these must be reported to the Police.The goal of the investigation which was opened on the basis of information provided by the Norwegian police is to establish whether any law was breached. No charges have been set out.I could not know that Anders Behring Breivik was planning to use ingredients from my company to manufacture a terrorist bomb. The case is about to grow into a huge nightmare for me. When the order came, no alarm bells rang with me. Sodium nitrite is often used as an additive to improve the shelf-life of meat products. Aluminium powder is commonly used, for example to harden the surface of outdoor pain.
ketilbstensrud According to childhood friends, Anders Behring Breivik felt 'feminine' and underwent plastic surgery to fix his looks (Dagbladet).TownsendMark Still, people carrying roses can be seen streaming through Oslo towards the cathedral. Another huge crowd has gathered in the city centre.What happened is that I was absolutely not believed when I explained what my daughter on Utoya had told me. I was told if that was the case, the children had only to call the police themselves. Even when I begged them to take me seriously.
I have been a defence lawayer before and in my opinion this is clearly a sane person because he has been too focused for too long and he has been doing things so correctly. In my experience of having had these sorts of clients before, they are normally quite normal but they are quite twisted in their minds, and this person in addition is total evil.Cameron's reference on Monday to Britain having also been a victim "of horrific acts of terrorism" made precisely the linkage that Breivik might have wanted. Terrorism is a specific and rational political form: the use of an violence to achieve a multiplier of fear through a civilian population to a particular end. Visiting "shock and awe" by bombing Baghdad in 2003 was terrorism, as were the bombs on the London Underground. Killing Norwegian teenagers (not Muslims) to express some vague hatred for society is not. It is merely deranged.ketilbstensrud Ila prison director, Knut Bjarkeid: "We'll now get a person here who really puts our professionalism to the test.The 1,500 page document has become a vital part of the ongoing investigation of the Oslo blast and Utøya massacre last Friday. Breivik has described a detailed 'survival kit' [which had to be prepared prior to the twin-attacks, ready for him after breaking out of prison], including weapons, ammunition, nutrition, stimulants and cash:I asked if it was notified that he came. He answered affirmitavely. So I called up the information on the island and said there was a man from the police here, whereupon I was told that 'it's OK, we sent over the boat.We sent an internal memo to different services to say we were going to arrest this man today with a view to having him see a doctor but there's no link to Friday's attacks.I can tell you, at this moment in time, we don't have evidence or we don't have indications that he has been part of a broader movement or that he has been in connection with other cells or that there are other cells."Police are on the scene and taking the measures they deem necessary. The area has been evacuated... this measure does not concern the entire central station but a good part of it."
"Explosives were found on the farm," outside Olso rented by Anders Behring Breivik, police spokeswoman Trine Dyngeland told AFP.
Just four of the 76 people known to have died in attacks in the Norwegian capital Oslo and on the island of Utoya were named on Tuesday, their ages ranging from 23 to 61.
Paul Ray, 35, who writes under the name Lionheart, said he was shocked and horrified by the atrocity and had closed down his blog of four years.
Anders Behring Breivik was “surprised” he was able to carry on shooting students on Utoya island for 90 minutes before police eventually caught up with him, his solicitor said, as he made clear he regarded his client as “insane”.Scotland Yard’s domestic extremism unit, which is investigating Breivik’s British links, has been sent a list of UK-based email addresses among 1,003 recipients of the document.
• Breivik given with keeping in the air when constabulary arrived
• PM: Noreg module advertise force with openness and commonwealth
• Christiania guard identified Breivik on CCTV before inaction, say reports
• Breivik 'proposed agreement act after situation break' in manifesto
• Norwegian spy supervisor: Breivik is not bonkers, but 'enumerate vicious'
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16.35 Jens Stoltenberg, the Nordic Number Rector, is sharing a count word:
We are feat to name a authorisation which is effort to examine everything that happened in Utoya and in Christiania municipality property. We module song this the 22 July organisation and it present news directly to me. It testament distribute its findings to parliament.
This is not a supercritical enquiry. We person a lot of courtesy for how our authorities and agencies handled the crisis. But we expect it's distinguished to hear everything we can so that we can descend up with a cypher of conduct.
We will acquire a subject obelisk for those killed in Utoya. There faculty also be a obelisk to the civil servants engaged in the authorities orientation. Costs gift be mercenary for funerals for those killed in Utoya and in Oslo. They module also be square compensation as victims of crime, and the families leave be donated ratified aid.
Zero can work place those confiscate in Utoya and Christiania, but we hope the methods we can promote leave pee things a lowercase easier for fill, and we necessity to reduce the essay of this e'er occurrence again.
16.31 A product member of Italia's Yankee Association, and a once diplomatist in Berlusconi's governing, has defended Breivik's thoughts. The Shielder reports that:
Francesco Speroni, a directing member of the Septrional League, the jnr partner in Berlusconi's blimpish organisation, said: "Breivik's ideas are in squad of southwestern society."
Yesterday ago we reported that Mario Borghezi, other Boreal Association member and an Romance MEP, whose Immunity and Democracy unit includes Ukip, had said "One hundred per coin of Breivik's ideas are healthful, in whatever cases extremely bully. The positions of Breivik emit the views of those movements across Assemblage which are success elections."
16.23 Apostle Townsend of The Guardian has been mumbling to the chairperson of the Nobel Repose Value commission:
TownsendMark Been articulate to post of Philanthropist Peace See re Breivik, he says politicians should layover denigrating multiculturalism. Listen up Cameron
16.05 Anders Snortheimsmoen, the officer of the Nordic Delta team of specific counter-terror constabulary, has told AP that his officers nearly slam Breivik deathly at the set because they feared he was wearing an bursting path. The conclusion was made by a "really narrowed bound," he said.
15.44 The key points regarding the investigate for the nonexistent:
• Two boats including a mini submarine relieve intelligent Utoya inlet
• Utoya leave be rehabilitated to the Party Receiver Younker
15.33 The key points from the official on the set:
• Breivik given with guardianship in the air when constabulary arrived
• People 'kept reaching, as tho' they were on a transporter whang'
• Mechanized job with the dish 'did not unhurried greeting'
15.31 A writer has asked how it's contingent that they don't bang how more fill died on Utoya. The law lawman replies that they love estimated figures that they are using, but with the explore noneffervescent ongoing they won't vent a final image. They are intelligent the bout of the inlet, but it's rattling colourful and has severe currents, so the hunt is rattling "provocative".
They also say that the problems with the boat did not weaken downcast their resposne.
15.15 Here's all the text from that machine word: there were foursome speakers, I'll calculate it up into more tractable chunks in a nowadays:
• Brain of the Buskerud personnel make:
The PM has referred to this as a person tragedy, and I hold. The pessimum conceivable artefact has happened. It has been completely hallucinatory. Yesterday's deed was a wonderful circumstance, a heartwarming watch. It was very consequential for all of us who eff sympathy for those people who lost idolized ones.
Buskerud personnel govern has domain for Utoya, where we unredeemed so some people on Weekday. Our body has finished a rattling exacting job on Utoya, during the circumstance and afterwards. We fuck had a place for the family and we know cooperated with a circumscribe of willing organisations including Red Marking and with added districts in the region of Norge. It has been a very gargantuan activeness and many people disrupted their holidays and came corroborate to improve. I would equivalent to ri
It's been an {amazing toil and several very rattling superb cooperation. The present why we bed titled this matter conference is, among others, because we bed had a separation of proletariat which where Port has usurped most of the trustiness, but now we screw reached a doctor in the investigation where we are deed to expend much of this energy. I'm effort to say a few language near what will pass next in Utoya, where there is untold acquisition managing the current explore for the nonexistent:
Regarding the current activity: The operational endeavour at Utoya was and is rattling tightened. It's a rattling structure task, and more organisations are entangled. Our exigency services, the fire brigade, our polite protection, have peculiarly worked stiff. What remains is to play Utoya play and snap it bet to the cohort grouping of the Class Set. We have no time-frame for this, but the content
We are currently searching in the installation using two boats, a mini-submarine and a unscheduled hunt boat. We bang had them in the installation for several reading now. We are discovery a sort of personalised holding at the nether of the sea. The island is noneffervescent cordoned off and I ask group to notice this. We mortal guards in place on the island and around the island, and we ask people to satisfy remark instructions from the guards.
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• The gob who ran the pinch midpoint on the mainland:
It was straightaway crystalize from the first that more group requisite to be evacuated from the bivouac. Sunvollen (?) was the activity we decided to use for evacuating the families. Much than 600 junior grouping nonnegative emergency services, health services and families were in guess. It was straightaway determine that there were fatalities and casualties among the victims. Our best task was to yield them clothes and a position to slumber, and I would same
• The officer who commanded the operation to capture Breivik on Utoya:
On that sad day, I had a day off. I came to the police displace at 17.43 and was told there was a shot at Utoya and I apprehended it was serious. At base I had seen on receiver what had happened in Oslo and thespian my own conclusions on the parallels between Utoya and Port. I grabbed as untold equipment as I could that I content I would need and got in the car and bicephalous for Utoya. I met different staff at Utoya and parked my car. The early cars from our salutation services started to succeed, and two of our personnel officers had already prefab two boats free. In gross we were almost 10 people in the constabulary boats, two from the personnel regularise and eight from the emergency salutation copulate. We had a job with the engine on the boat, but we managed to category this out.
We had to commute boats, but the dish was a boat, and we had cinque grouping from the counter-terrorism unit of the personnel. When we were driving the boats towards the island, one of the boats was a bit faster than the remaining one. We didn't bang any distinct assemblage nearly where we should go, but when the original squad arrived at the island, they met a unit of youngsters who said someone was shooting and sharp0 "over there". They straightaway jumped into process to try and get and anticipate the liquidator. We then spotted the shooter propulsion on the gray relation of the island, and we heard a lot of gunshots, forthcoming nonviolence and curdled.
We all ran to the gray component of the island, where we knew the gunman was shooting. When we were getting closer, around 350 metres inaccurate, and started to movement him, we started to demand him. The terrain was very vexed, and it was unenviable to get fair visibleness, but as we were working we came into a clearance in the forest, and suddenly there was the gunman with his guardianship above his juncture conscionable in cheat of us. We comprehended him in the regular fashion. His weapons lay 50 metres forth on the ground prefab my way rearward to the keep and was decreed membrane of the dealings on the connecter, and my premiere task was to conceptualize whether he was unequaled or whether there was anybody added actuation. Archetypical aid, ambulances and excreting also became location of my job. There was a course of adolescent group arrival towards me, and police officers were carrying the people. Members of the people came over in their own boats and helped us void group from the island. We set up an emergency middle to broach the injured. We worked rattling horny. The people force are sharing a matter conference. The position melody testament be in Nordic. I'll deal thrown as much as I can.
14.53 Solon than one meg fill get subscribed an online substance for VG paper, "holding hands in revulsion against aggression and in inclination with those forced".
14.34 A agreement pressurized detonation has been carried out at Breivik's farm after a new stockpile of explosives was discovered, according to Jonathan Wald of CNN.
14.19 Aftenposten reports that Norseman constabulary knew Anders Behring Breivik's identicalness before they arrested him, from CCTV footage of the car he liberal containing a bomb in Christiania.
14.15 The Nordic government has inveterate that one of its nationals was killed in Utoya, the eldest adventive somebody celebrated to hump died in the attacks. Hanne Balch Fjalestadshe, 43, had been on the database of missing persons, but regime in Danmark now say she has died. She was working as a first-aid herb on the island, and was there with her daughter Anna, 20, who survived.
13.58 After locution the political period live in Utoya where 68 grouping were killed "sounds a little like, you bang, the Dictator juvenile" - and neglecting to reference his own 9/12 Design, which teaches children as youngish as viii a Tea Party-endorsed curriculum - Astronaut Beck has defended using Fascist analogies. Encourage, he has spent on to equate the Obama brass to the Tertiary Analyst. Jon Swaine reports:
On Tues's edition of his syllabus, Beck did not speak the contestation straight. But after describing both the Obama establishment's move to the interpret US debt crisis and the earliest life of the Socialism authorities in the tardily 1930s, he said: "I'm informatory you - it's the self condition".
"Hitler and all of the grouping in the Third Reich - they were all doing the very objective," he said, suggesting that they complained of inheriting a "bad state" from the City Commonwealth honourable as Mr Obama has stated he was tract with an system wrecked by George W. President.
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13.53 From VG, some harrowing and occasionally graphic footage of the immediate aftermath of the Oslo bombings.
13.34 Here's a longer version of Stoltenberg's statement, as best I could take it down:
The horrific and brutal attacks were a national tragedy and attack on our values of openness and democracy. The final death toll is not yet known, but the magnitude is hard to comprehend. The priority this week is to care for the wounded and those who have lost loved ones.It has been great to see the strong response from Norwegian people.
The security services used all available resources to combat the attacks. We will not be intimidated or threatened by these attacks. The aim of these attacks is to spread panic. We will not let that happen. We will stand by our values. Norway is an open society. Only through open debate will [we defeat violent ideologies]. The Norwegian response to violence is more openness and more democracy.
13.25 Stoltenberg says that of course it is all right to have different views on immigration and politics, but it is never acceptable to use violence. He says that the response will be "more democracy, and more openness".
13.24 He is asked about whether he feels his security forces were up to the job. He says, again, that they will look at the lessons when the investigation is in, but that now is the time to comfort those who have lost loved ones.
13.19 Jens Stoltenberg is speaking on Sky. He is asked what his proudest moment was this week:
My proudest moment was when the Norwegian people went out on the streets and so clearly manifested their message of tolerance and democracy in the face of violence on Monday night. But that was not my proudest moment, that was pride in the people of Norway.Often countries that have suffered this sort of attack move swiftly to enact stricter laws. Will you do that?
This is a time for comforting the people who have lost loved ones and helping the wounded. When that is over there will be a time for looking at the lessons we can learn about security, and I welcome a debate about that.
12.56 The US President Barack Obama has signed a book of condolences for Utoya and Oslo at the Norwegian embassy in Washington:
...it is quite clear, at least to me, and Professor Andrew Silke on yesterday's Today programme, that Anders Breivik is not a madman. If you study Breivik's 2083 A European Declaration of Independence, it becomes apparent that Breivik is not insane. His thought processes are clear and rational. He appears to reasonably well socialised, and in control of his faculties. He even displays a sense of morality. His political arguments, although deeply wrong, are no more wrong-headed than many you might find in the comments boxes on the websites of many a newspaper, and, if anything, are far more sophisticated. Breivik comes across as an intelligent, thoughtful person, albeit obsessional with what he perceives to be the eliminationist threat of multiculturalism to Norwegian - and European - society. None of these attributes make him insane, and certainly not mad enough to be the psycho figure posited by Sam Leith and Boris Johnson.12.36 The chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, Mohammed Shafiq, has urged British mosques to increase security in the run-up to the Muslim holy month following Anders Behring Breivik's attack:
As the holy month of Ramadhan will begin this weekend, we have urged all mosques in the United Kingdom to increase security and ensure that they are more vigilant about suspicious packages that may be left near mosques. People travelling to mosques should be aware of being followed or any verbal attacks - these must be reported to the Police.The Government's recently announced terrorism strategy has one line about the far Right and in light of the attacks in Norway this will need to be visited.
Sadly over the past few years, politicians, the media and commentators have created an atmosphere of hatred, prejudice and downright lies about Muslims and Islam - which has fed into an increased level of attacks on Mosques and our community. To ensure that nothing ever comes between our diverse communities in the UK we need responsibility from all sections of our society.
12.28 Here's what the Polish prosecutor said, via AFP:
The goal of the investigation which was opened on the basis of information provided by the Norwegian police is to establish whether any law was breached. No charges have been set out.Interestingly Dagbladet suggested that Mikus was to charged under "article 171 of the Polish penal code", but the AFP quote seems to contradict that.
12.17 A Polish prosecutor has told a Norwegian newspaper that they are investigating a Polish man over possible "crimes against public safety", for unauthorised possession of explosives, and for illegally providing chemical bomb components to an unauthorised person.Lukasz Mikus could face up to eight years in prison if found guilty. He told Dagbladet:
I could not know that Anders Behring Breivik was planning to use ingredients from my company to manufacture a terrorist bomb. The case is about to grow into a huge nightmare for me. When the order came, no alarm bells rang with me. Sodium nitrite is often used as an additive to improve the shelf-life of meat products. Aluminium powder is commonly used, for example to harden the surface of outdoor pain.They took my computer and mobile phone, and the contents are being investigated. On Friday I will meet again with security services, and I expect they will ask me about things they have found. But I have nothing to hide. I cannot say more, because I have been muzzled by [Polish intelligence service] ABW.
12.15 Norway's TV2 is reporting that the police have reduced the number of missing around Utoya to one person. There will be a press conference at 3pm BST (4pm Oslo time).
12.03 Interesting - via Ketil Stensrud from today's Dagbladet, I'll get a link shortly:
ketilbstensrud According to childhood friends, Anders Behring Breivik felt 'feminine' and underwent plastic surgery to fix his looks (Dagbladet).11.44 The Guardian's Mark Townsend tweets:
TownsendMark Still, people carrying roses can be seen streaming through Oslo towards the cathedral. Another huge crowd has gathered in the city centre.Steel fences surrounding the area where Friday's bomb detonated, where rescue teams still hunt missing bodies, are carpeted in flowers.
11.30 The father of two children who tried to alert police to the unfolding events on Utoya has taken issue with the Norwegian police's claim that they handled the crisis as well as could be expected. Geir Johnsensays that when he informed the police, they told him to get his daughters to call themselves:
What happened is that I was absolutely not believed when I explained what my daughter on Utoya had told me. I was told if that was the case, the children had only to call the police themselves. Even when I begged them to take me seriously.[After two or three minutes of "frustrating" conversation], I think I said something like, 'you really aren't being much help, you old bitch' and she told me not to call her a bitch.
11.26 Staying with Norwegian politics, Prime Minister Stoltenberg has won widespread admiration from Norwegians for his handling of the crisis. A survey in VG found 80 per cent said he had handled the crisis "extremely well".
11.19 Norway's Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg, has been forced to work from the defence ministry since his office was heavily damaged in the bomb attacks. Likewise, cabinet meetings are to be held in a medieval fort near Oslo's waterfront. However, church minister Rigmore Aaserud has made what Reuters is calling a "symbolic" return to her office in a nearby government complex that was damaged by the blast. "I am glad to be back in my office...to be able to resume the more normal work functions," she said.
It has not yet been decided whether the 17-storey prime ministry building where Mr Stoltenberg's office was will be repaired or torn down.
11.07 A bit more information on this morning's Oslo central station bomb scare. To recap, a suspicious suitcase was found on a bus, and the station was evacuated, while all train and bus services were halted. Police, fire and ambulance services were all called en masse to the station. But police have since said that the suitcase was harmless: "Nothing was found that was of interest to the police," Chief Superintendent Tore Barstad told reporters, adding that the suitcase search had no known link with Friday's attacks.
11.02 Here are today's Norwegian front pages. I've grabbed a couple below:
Most are focusing on the release of the names of victims, like Dagbladet, right.
10.45 Ketil Stensrud tweets that the Norwegian government is to put 20 million krone (£2,300,000) into the Oslo and Buskerud police force, in order to pay for 100 new officers.
10.30 Janne Kristiansen of Norwegian intelligence earlier told the BBC that she thought Breivik was "evil" rather than insane:
I have been a defence lawayer before and in my opinion this is clearly a sane person because he has been too focused for too long and he has been doing things so correctly. In my experience of having had these sorts of clients before, they are normally quite normal but they are quite twisted in their minds, and this person in addition is total evil.10.25 To confirm, the police operation in Oslo's main rail station has been called off: no explosives have been found.
10.18 Simon Jenkins in The Guardian writes that the last thing Norway needs is illiberal Britain's patronising:
Cameron's reference on Monday to Britain having also been a victim "of horrific acts of terrorism" made precisely the linkage that Breivik might have wanted. Terrorism is a specific and rational political form: the use of an violence to achieve a multiplier of fear through a civilian population to a particular end. Visiting "shock and awe" by bombing Baghdad in 2003 was terrorism, as were the bombs on the London Underground. Killing Norwegian teenagers (not Muslims) to express some vague hatred for society is not. It is merely deranged.10.02 Ketil Stensrud of Radio NRJ Kristiansand is tweeting some key points from an interview with Knut Bjarkeid, the director of Ila prison, where Breivik is to be held:
ketilbstensrud Ila prison director, Knut Bjarkeid: "We'll now get a person here who really puts our professionalism to the test."We'll ensure that his [Breivik] safety is maintained, and that he won't be subject to abuse or attacks from fellow inmates.
"He will only get to meet prison guards, a nurse, a priest and his attorney.
"He will inevitably need a lot of sleep, so we have proved a 'normal bed' for him."
09.48 The Norwegian tabloid VG reports that Anders Behring Breivik planned a second operation after "breaking out of prison", according to police who have been reading his "manifesto":
The 1,500 page document has become a vital part of the ongoing investigation of the Oslo blast and Utøya massacre last Friday. Breivik has described a detailed 'survival kit' [which had to be prepared prior to the twin-attacks, ready for him after breaking out of prison], including weapons, ammunition, nutrition, stimulants and cash:"In a scenario where one can manage to break out of prison, this equipment will enable you to execute a second bonus mission," the manifesto reads.
09.35 A video has emerged of the Norwegian foreign minister Jonas Gahr Stoere's visit to Utoya, just a day before Breivik's attack:
09.29 A member of the French Front National has been suspended for defending Anders Behring Breivik. Jacques Coutela, who stood as an FN candidate in local elections in March, "was suspended today pending a party disciplinary committee", FN general secretary Steeve Briois said, describing Mr Coutela as a low-level party member.
On his blog, where he rails against the rise of Islam in Europe, Mr Coutela presents Breivik - the man who has claimed the twin attacks in Norway that killed 76 people - as an "icon" and "the main defender of the West".
09.20 The Sun reports this morning that Anders Behring Breivik wasfriends with Norwegian neo-Nazi Ole Nicolai Kvisler, one of two men who was convicted of the 2001 murder of a 15-year-old, Benjamin Hermansen, whose father was African. Kvisler was represented in court by Geir Lippestad - now Breivik's lawyer.
9.10 Breivik's Plan A was apparently to raise £3m to publish his rambling Declaration of Indepence on Europe. But when the stock market crashed he found himself £2.5m short and decided that a murderous attack was the only way to bring the document to public attention, the Daily Mailreports.
9.06 Police are saying now they don't think there's a connection between this morning's security alert and Friday's attacks.
Searches are ongoing on a bus near the station.
9.02 Simen Brænde Mortensen, a Youth League leader who wasguarding the mainland ferry link to Utoya, said yesterday he suspected Breivik phoned the island's information office ahead of the massacre.
I asked if it was notified that he came. He answered affirmitavely. So I called up the information on the island and said there was a man from the police here, whereupon I was told that 'it's OK, we sent over the boat."He must obviously have planned very well"
8.54 A harrowing story emerged last night of a text exchange between Julie Bremnes, a 16-year-old on the island, and her mother, Marianne.
Some of the exchange:
Julie: Mummy, tell the police that they must hurry. People are dying here!
Mum: I’m working on it, Julie. The police are coming. Dare you call me?
Julie: No.
Julie: Tell the police that there is a mad man running around and shooting people.
Julie: They must hurry!
Mum: The police know it. This is not good, Julie. Police are calling us now. Give us a sign of life every five minutes, please?
Julie: OK.
Julie: We are surviving!
Mum: I understand, my girl. Stay in cover, do not move anywhere! The police are already on the way, if not already arrived! Do you see anyone injured or killed?
Julie: We are hiding in the rocks along the coast.
8.35 Claims that the man being hunted was linked to Breivik appear to have been the result of police confusion. A spokesman says:
We sent an internal memo to different services to say we were going to arrest this man today with a view to having him see a doctor but there's no link to Friday's attacks.8.29 Reuters now reporting that police have retracted their earlier statement and are saying the man they are hunting has nothing to do with Breivik. We'll try to clarify this as soon as possible.
8.23 VG, the Norwegian tabloid that has most aggressively followed the Breivik story, is reporting that the killer will spend all eight weeks of his remand period in full isolation at Ila Prison, instead of the four that the judge initially ordered.
Ringerike Prison offered to take the prisoner, but authorities turned it down on the grounds that it is provocatively close to the island of Utoya, where he carried out his massacre.
8.16 Despite the news that detectives are hunting a new suspect it seems the train station itself is fairly calm.
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8.12 A man got onto a bus that is temporarily replacing the train to the airport, put his bag down and then got off the bus, Norwegian television is reporting.
It's also saying police are looking for a man aged 25-30 wearing black with white headgear. It's still not clear whether they believe the "dangerous" man is responsible for the security alert at the train station.
8.10 Norwegian state TV says the man police are hunting was released from jail on Monday. Still no word on his identity but it seems that detectives have a fairly clear idea who, if not where, he is.
8.04 Norwegian detectives are searching for a "dangerous and unstable man" who identifies with Breivik, Sky News is reporting. It's not clear whether this has any link to the station evacuation.
8.01 Interesting line from Norwegian tabloid VG - Norway's Prime MinisterJens Stoltenberg has never been more popular
80 percent of the population believe Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg has handled the situation since Friday's horrific terrorist attack "very well". If we include those who think he has handled the situation well, he gets great praise from around 94 percent of respondents.
7.57 David MacDougall from AP has arrived at the train station:
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7.54 Norwegian intelligence chief Janne Kristiansen has said she believes Breivik acted alone and there is no evidence of "other cells" in Britain or elsewhere.
I can tell you, at this moment in time, we don't have evidence or we don't have indications that he has been part of a broader movement or that he has been in connection with other cells or that there are other cells."7.52 Sky News's Alistair Bunkall tweets from Oslo:
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7.42 A little more on the station evacuation, from a rail spokesman:
Police are on the scene and taking the measures they deem necessary. The area has been evacuated... this measure does not concern the entire central station but a good part of it."7.39 Part of Oslo's central train station has been evacuated because of a suspicious bag.
"A bag apparently with no owner was found next to platform 19. The area around the platform was evacuated. Therefore trains and buses do not travel in this area," railways spokesman Olav Nordli said.
7.30 Norwegian police last night found and destroyed a cache of explosives found at a farm rented by the gunman.
"Explosives were found on the farm," outside Olso rented by Anders Behring Breivik, police spokeswoman Trine Dyngeland told AFP."We thought it better not to move them and they were destroyed on the spot in a controlled explosion," she said.
Behring Breivik, who said he had planned Friday's attacks for a long time, had rented the farm north of Oslo ostensibly to grow vegetables.
7.25 Neil Tweedie reports that Norwegian police have begun releasing the names of the of those killed in the attack
Just four of the 76 people known to have died in attacks in the Norwegian capital Oslo and on the island of Utoya were named on Tuesday, their ages ranging from 23 to 61.The search for more victims is continuing in the deep waters around Utoya, as a number of people remain unaccounted for.
Some 700 people, mainly teenagers, were attending a summer camp organised by Norway’s ruling Labour Party when Breivik opened fire with automatic weapons, killing at least 68 of them.
Senior officers said the exact numbers on the island were not known because people were arriving at and leaving the event in the run-up to the massacre.
7.24 A right-wing British blogger fears he may have been the inspiration for Anders Behring Breivik. Richard Alleyne and Duncan Gardham report:
Paul Ray, 35, who writes under the name Lionheart, said he was shocked and horrified by the atrocity and had closed down his blog of four years.Mr Ray, originally from Bedfordshire but now living in Malta, told The Daily Telegraph: "I am convinced that I have never met him and I can clear my name, but it does worry me that he got inspiration from my blog and it does look that way.
"I do worry that he has taken what I say and overreacted to it. I worry about that. That is my main worry."
In his 1,500-page "compendium", Anders Behring Breivik, the Oslo killer, described attending the founding meeting of the Knights Templar in London in 2002 and wrote that his "assigned mentor" was "referred to as Richard (the Lionhearted)."
7.23 The gunman expected to die before he reached the island of Utoya, Gordon Rayner and Duncan Gardham report:
Anders Behring Breivik was “surprised” he was able to carry on shooting students on Utoya island for 90 minutes before police eventually caught up with him, his solicitor said, as he made clear he regarded his client as “insane”.Geir Lippestad said Breivik assumed he would be shot before he even got as far as Utoya, where he killed 68 young members of the Labour Party.
Norwegian police have been heavily criticised for their apparently slow response in getting officers to the island after they received the first reports of shots being fired.
Mr Lippestad said: “He was a little bit surprised that he succeeded. He was expecting to be stopped earlier by the police or someone else on the actual day.
7.22 Anders Behring Breivik emailed his rambling manifesto to around 1,000 addresses - including 250 British ones - shortly before he detonated the bomb in Oslo. Gordon Rayner, Bruno Waterfield and Mark Hughes report:
Scotland Yard’s domestic extremism unit, which is investigating Breivik’s British links, has been sent a list of UK-based email addresses among 1,003 recipients of the document.Breivik joined online conversations with members of the Right-wing English Defence League, telling them to “keep up the good work” in the months before he killed 76 people in Norway’s worst terrorist outrage.
He was told he would be welcome at EDL demonstrations, and wrote about visiting Bradford and London. He is also reported to have attended an EDL rally in Newcastle.
7.20 BST (8.20 Norway) Good morning and welcome back to our live blog, bringing you all the latest developments from the tragedy in Norway.
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the facts are these are the actions of an outcast in Norwegian soceity, high on drugs and desperately seeking attention for himself and others.
i think i'm right in saying that Anders Behring Breivik's farther was a norwegian dipolmat. he probably didn't receive much attention from his family or much of a home life due to the nature of the job and so that's when he found friends and family in......................"knights of the templar"?
you find that this is ually the trend with people that committ crimes like this. david copeland (the nail bomber.) is another one.
i always think that to get on in life it helps is you can see the difference between a normal person and a complete and utter oddball.
i think i'm right in saying that Anders Behring Breivik's farther was a norwegian dipolmat. he probably didn't receive much attention from his family or much of a home life due to the nature of the job and so that's when he found friends and family in......................"knights of the templar"?
you find that this is ually the trend with people that committ crimes like this. david copeland (the nail bomber.) is another one.
i always think that to get on in life it helps is you can see the difference between a normal person and a complete and utter oddball.
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at the end of the day, multi-culturalism, islam, muslims etc is just a diversion from FACTS.
the facts are Anders Behring Breivik murdered his own people while high on drugs. how twisted can you get. he hated muslims so he killed his own people.
there is no justification for this. only people as nutty as Anders Behring Breivik can see where he's coming from.
i know that some parts of europe MIGHT have a problem with immigration. but history will prove as it always does in these unique outburts of violence that Anders Behring Breivik actually had very little to say and boils down to nothing more than an extremely paranoid schizophrenic that should have been removed from the streets of Norway years ago.
the facts are Anders Behring Breivik murdered his own people while high on drugs. how twisted can you get. he hated muslims so he killed his own people.
there is no justification for this. only people as nutty as Anders Behring Breivik can see where he's coming from.
i know that some parts of europe MIGHT have a problem with immigration. but history will prove as it always does in these unique outburts of violence that Anders Behring Breivik actually had very little to say and boils down to nothing more than an extremely paranoid schizophrenic that should have been removed from the streets of Norway years ago.
Breivik may be looked upon as a hero in years to come. The same way our own governments and MSM portray the likes of Mandela and others who murdered for political beliefs. No doubt there are those who abhor his actions and are repulsed by murderers whoever they are, but ask yourself why do some murderers get hero status while others are demonised both by the state and MSM in our countries.
If you haven't watched his video I suggest you do and take it all in. There is much truth in there.
If you claim he is nutty then so you must claim our governments equally nutty, who also use murder for political purpose, like deposing Gaddafi from Libya for example.
If you haven't watched his video I suggest you do and take it all in. There is much truth in there.
If you claim he is nutty then so you must claim our governments equally nutty, who also use murder for political purpose, like deposing Gaddafi from Libya for example.
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Wow, that's a pretty... detailed an indepth analysis!
How many hourse of hard, hard thinking did it take you to come out with such brilliance?
I mean, look how eloquently you put that. It's as watertight as a sieve and I bet, you as a Knight Templar, are wearing that sieve proudly as your helmet!
You are my personal hero of the day, full of courage, mind and poetry - may I kiss your smelly feet??
How many hourse of hard, hard thinking did it take you to come out with such brilliance?
I mean, look how eloquently you put that. It's as watertight as a sieve and I bet, you as a Knight Templar, are wearing that sieve proudly as your helmet!
You are my personal hero of the day, full of courage, mind and poetry - may I kiss your smelly feet??
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Like Raoul Moat.
http://www.reuters.com/article...
"Reuters) - Young men who use anabolic steroids are twice as likely to engage in violence than those who do not use the muscle-building drugs, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday.
While many scientists believe anabolic steroids -- synthetic drugs related to male sex hormones -- are linked to aggressive behavior, research has been limited. Some users refer to so-called "roid rage" fueled by the drugs.
"We're finding that steroid users are more likely to become violent, even above and beyond their prior levels of violence"
http://www.reuters.com/article...
"Reuters) - Young men who use anabolic steroids are twice as likely to engage in violence than those who do not use the muscle-building drugs, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday.
While many scientists believe anabolic steroids -- synthetic drugs related to male sex hormones -- are linked to aggressive behavior, research has been limited. Some users refer to so-called "roid rage" fueled by the drugs.
"We're finding that steroid users are more likely to become violent, even above and beyond their prior levels of violence"
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It is really astounding how there are so many excuses and causes being proliferated on the MSM yet very few refer to the manifesto and video that Breivik produced, explicitly explaining the reasons behind his actions.
Classic left ostrich behaviour so far. Don't expect to be engaged with debate. Like the leader of the EDL said their members are having their democratic right of peaceful protest removed in order to suppress the issue and keep the pot at boiling point.
Classic left ostrich behaviour so far. Don't expect to be engaged with debate. Like the leader of the EDL said their members are having their democratic right of peaceful protest removed in order to suppress the issue and keep the pot at boiling point.
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Question: "Why did it take you so long to get from the mainland to the island?"
Police responds: "I don't want to comment any further"
Oh yeah, why? These dumbasses are clearly not made responsible for anything. You can clearly see the weakness of Norweigan society, beginning with their authority.
What a bunch of dumbasses.
They have already provided 3 different numbers of dead people (how many were there exactly?); they ignored to respond in time; they neglected a warning from Polish authorities about the volume of fertilizers and chemicals Breiviks purchased. And on and on. The Norweignan fucking police is completely incompetent.
Police responds: "I don't want to comment any further"
Oh yeah, why? These dumbasses are clearly not made responsible for anything. You can clearly see the weakness of Norweigan society, beginning with their authority.
What a bunch of dumbasses.
They have already provided 3 different numbers of dead people (how many were there exactly?); they ignored to respond in time; they neglected a warning from Polish authorities about the volume of fertilizers and chemicals Breiviks purchased. And on and on. The Norweignan fucking police is completely incompetent.
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They did not know how many went to the island. Which again to us looks very careless as any of them could have "taken something and decided to go for a swim."
Its not just the police it is the deliberate naivety of the politicians.
On Day one the PM was saying lovely things about caring for each other and then he said before grief had even begun to kick in "we will not be changed". I thought but you should be mate you should be.
Its not just the police it is the deliberate naivety of the politicians.
On Day one the PM was saying lovely things about caring for each other and then he said before grief had even begun to kick in "we will not be changed". I thought but you should be mate you should be.
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If we are sincere in our wish to challenge the EDL politically, thereby to expose the politics they espouse, then surely we must allow them to speak and we must allow them to demonstrate.
I dislike the EDL intensely, but in place of my previous condescending blanket amusement at them, I was given pause for thought when their representative (Lennon) attempted to explain on Newsnight how he represented a growing proportion of the working class.
I do not know if this statement is hyperbole, but I do believe this : we must not allow the BBC to become an organisation for only the well educated
and well spoken.
For that reason alone, well done to Paxman & co for allowing the EDL a few minutes.
If 9/11 or Norway could have been avoided by our journalists and news channels giving occasional space to unheard extremists – then we are right to let them talk.
James (2nd yr PPE, Oxford)
I dislike the EDL intensely, but in place of my previous condescending blanket amusement at them, I was given pause for thought when their representative (Lennon) attempted to explain on Newsnight how he represented a growing proportion of the working class.
I do not know if this statement is hyperbole, but I do believe this : we must not allow the BBC to become an organisation for only the well educated
and well spoken.
For that reason alone, well done to Paxman & co for allowing the EDL a few minutes.
If 9/11 or Norway could have been avoided by our journalists and news channels giving occasional space to unheard extremists – then we are right to let them talk.
James (2nd yr PPE, Oxford)
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I was reading how Muslims had "joined in the mourning". Yeah right. They "joined in" because their own asses were blamed as the cause for this tragedy, worried that people may agree to this claim.
Had there been a terrorist attack from another radical Muslim group, as usual, they would not be found anywhere to offer sympathy or condemnation of the atrocities. But when a non-Muslim has commited the offence, they immediately serve as sympathizers! Can no one really recnognize the stench of hypocrisy and motives here?
Had there been a terrorist attack from another radical Muslim group, as usual, they would not be found anywhere to offer sympathy or condemnation of the atrocities. But when a non-Muslim has commited the offence, they immediately serve as sympathizers! Can no one really recnognize the stench of hypocrisy and motives here?
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The largest Holocaust in
history occurred under Communist regimes.
The Soviet Union is
the greatest mega murderer of all ideologies, killing near 61,000,000 people.
Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the
deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labour in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the Cultural Revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst mega murderer. Then there are the lesser mega murderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia.
By far, the most deadly of all communist countries and, indeed, in this century by far, has been Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and his crew likely killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians from April 1975 through December 1978 out of a population of around 7,000,000. This is an annual rate of over 8 percent of the population murdered, or odds of an average Cambodian surviving Pol Pot's rule of slightly over just over 2 to 1.
In sum the communists have murdered something like 140,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, the Nazis and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world totals itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars.
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history occurred under Communist regimes.
The Soviet Union is
the greatest mega murderer of all ideologies, killing near 61,000,000 people.
Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the
deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labour in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the Cultural Revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst mega murderer. Then there are the lesser mega murderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia.
By far, the most deadly of all communist countries and, indeed, in this century by far, has been Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and his crew likely killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians from April 1975 through December 1978 out of a population of around 7,000,000. This is an annual rate of over 8 percent of the population murdered, or odds of an average Cambodian surviving Pol Pot's rule of slightly over just over 2 to 1.
In sum the communists have murdered something like 140,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, the Nazis and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world totals itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...
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Norway seems determined to keep on providing triggers for Western nutjobs. "Openess" is probably code for "more immigrants". Feeling their society is against them is a trigger for spree killers.
Norway also need to give up the idea that mankind is basically nice and if they are nice enough bad things will not happen.
They do happen. They are more likely to happen if people are not listened to or the pace of change is too great.
Countries with experience of terrorist attacks go "what next" after a bomb. The world has had Beslan and Dunblane and numerous campus shootings in the USA.
Why didn't they go "oh sh** the kids?" It was a political meeting. Here they search and seal the drains for such things.
Norway was too innocent and seems determined to stay naive.
Norway also need to give up the idea that mankind is basically nice and if they are nice enough bad things will not happen.
They do happen. They are more likely to happen if people are not listened to or the pace of change is too great.
Countries with experience of terrorist attacks go "what next" after a bomb. The world has had Beslan and Dunblane and numerous campus shootings in the USA.
Why didn't they go "oh sh** the kids?" It was a political meeting. Here they search and seal the drains for such things.
Norway was too innocent and seems determined to stay naive.
If not, since he has killed so many innocent children...he will get his comeuppance in jail sooner or later I'm sure. Even prison populations have a code when it comes to murdering innocent children.
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Okay, so somebody would die if ten people tried but at least it would have stopped him but its better than begging for you life.
There seems to be something not quite right about the Norwegian psyche.
Imagine you had stopped it by killing it... you would have been arrested and tried for murder... political correctness is in fact a greater threat to us than this kind.
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Sorry Paxman, but you're getting old - he owned you.
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How typical of our Nazi BBC to behave like that!
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What kind of manufactured democracy is this???
This sounds like the same laborratory that produced cameron??
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That's Glenn Beck territory.
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I believe that Norway will soon be "all back to normal" again. Maybe not to the same Norway it once was, but certainly to another but new ordinary day situation.
We do believe in freedom of will and freedom of speech.
We do believe in the power agreements, of democracy and not war. We do allow people to tell their own opinions.
We will continue doing so.
The whole world should see, and for parts of the world to learn from, the way we meet this situation and how we choose to stand together, everyone hand in hand and side by side, rather than to express and to be shouting for a destructive hate and revenge.
To see a gathering not started by any politician or public office, but from a person on facebook, and how the people by themself started singing the national item, just watch?v=4g2tbxhQOzU on YouTube.
( http://www.youtube.com/results... )
Thank you for all support! :-)
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You and your government are acting and sounding like the Borg from Star Trek.
Multuculturalism is MOST DEFINITELY NOT the way to a happy future.
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Well at least you've learned from your mistakes.
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I can assure you two things.
One is that the multiculture sociality will grow stronger.
Second, there are not many countries in the world that would have the PM, the whole royal family and the top politicians walking in the streets the day after, amd standing high up and visable to everyone on their balconies, walking in the crowd totally unprotected and share hugs and warmth of love with their people "the day after".
Every person is a person even though we are coming from our induvidual different background.
Put a burning stick in our arse and we will all scream, we are all human. Simple as that.
If you can not see the value in a person that is your limitation, not our. :-)
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you say 'Every person is a person even though we are coming from our induvidual different background.'
Tell me how that also means I should invite everyone into my country. Some yes, depending on space, services, needs. But to issue a blanket statement saying we're all the same, and THEREFORE let's live together in harmony does not stack up, unless of course you wish simply to impose your dogma and to hell with what people think.
You are living in a dream.
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Islam is violent oppression. I can give you endless links to prove this fact if you want me to.
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Strawberry fields forever!